What Web designers do is not “design.” Of course, what he’s done throughout his career, including his work for porn magazines, is.

Where is the most innovative and creative graphic-design work occurring right now?

I don’t think there is any. We’re in this interregnum. We’re waiting for things to happen. Following the changes in technology is the integration of old and new media. The Web is a fallow place. They haven’t figured out how to make design on the Web, except wireframes and complicated information structures. So, if you are looking to truly become a digital designer, the most interesting work is in illustration and typography.

To answer your question, the most innovative stuff is still coming out in traditional ways in toys and fashion. They have more spark and flair. But I’m 57 years old and I’m not really necessarily looking in right places.

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